And the Lord Shall Bring Me Into Egypt Again

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Showtime I want to say it is true the modern Jews are not the Jews of antiquity. This website has a few threads that show information technology. There are many scriptures that prove Israel was and is a colored nation. I too want to say there are many scriptures that prove NBC/Negroes, Blacks, and Coloreds ostend the words of the prophets. I accept been taught that The Sometime Testament of the KJV was translated from German-fashion Hebrew (Yiddish, Former German) using the Babylonian Aramaic foursquare letters and not using the aboriginal Paleo-Hebrew. A lot of camps have our people believing the KJV translation was from original documents in the original tongues. I take been taught that is not the case. To say the KJV was translated out of the original tongues, is a misleading statement to make. I don't believe in pushing falsehoods practise to emotional attachments and fright of ridicule from others. Using a prevarication to get people to believe what another believes volition but backfire on in the stop. Let's examine Deuteronomy 28:68. "And the LORD shall bring thee into Arab republic of egypt again with ships, by the mode whereof I spake unto thee, K shalt encounter it no more again: and there ye shall be sold (H 4376)  unto your enemies for bondmen and bondwomen, and no human shall buy (H7069) you ." "And the LORD shall bring thee into Egypt again with ships," This does non say "some other Arab republic of egypt " or "spiritual Arab republic of egypt" similar many Israelites claim. Information technology says Egypt . In Hebrew it says Mitsrayim. This is talking about literal geographical Egypt/Mitsrayim. Non "past the way whereof I spake unto thee, Thou shalt see it no more again:" YHWH told the Israelites that were led out by Moses they would never meet Egypt/Mitzrayim again in Exodus 14:13 and Deuteronomy 17:16. Exodus 14:13 Rex James Bible And Moses said unto the people, Fear ye not, stand still, and meet the salvation of the LORD, which he volition shew to you to day: for the Egyptians whom ye have seen to twenty-four hour period, ye shall see them again no more than for ever. Deut 17:16 Rex James Bible But he shall non multiply horses to himself, nor cause the people to render to Arab republic of egypt , to the end that he should multiply horses: forasmuch as the LORD hath said unto you, Ye shall henceforth return no more that way . "and in that location ye shall be sold (H4376) unto your enemies for bondmen and bondwomen, and no human shall purchase (H7069) yous ." "At that place" is geographical Egypt/Mitsrayim. Josephus and Diodorus both have written about these events, that when Titus took Jerusalem (seventy CE), all the Jews/Yahudim over seventeen years erstwhile, both men and women, were sent past ships into Arab republic of egypt to labor in the mines. They were sold as slaves in that location merely since the slave market was so total no i wanted to buy them then many perished as a results. Read Josephus Book Half dozen, Chapter Ix, Section ii and Book 6, Chapter IX, Section 3. In the potent's cyclopedia H4376 was used for sold in Deuteronomy 28:68.4376  makar maw-kar' a archaic root; to sell, literally (every bit merchandise, a daughter in marriage, into slavery), or figuratively (to surrender):--10 at all, sell (away, -er, self). "and no man shall purchase you ." In the strong's concordance H7069 was used for buy in Deuteronomy 28:68. 7069 qanah kaw-naw' a primitive root; to cock, i.e. create; by extension, to procure, especially by purchase (causatively, sell); by implication to own:--attain, purchase(-er), teach to continue cattle, get, provoke to jealousy, possess(-or), purchase, recover, redeem, 10 surely, Ten verily. The KJV translates Strongs H7069 in the following style: Buy  (46x), become  (15x), purchased  (5x), buyer  (3x), possessor  (3x), possessed  (2x), possessor  (1x), recover  (1x), redeemed  (1x), misc  (7x). Many Israelites say that "no man shall buy you" means no man shall save you, or redeem you lot. H7069 was used 46 times in the manner of buying like a transaction. Only once is (H7069) translated every bit redeem. It was translated every bit redeemed in Nehemiah 5:8. "And I said unto them, We after our power have redeemed (H7069) our brethren the Jews, which were sold(H4376) unto the heathen; and will ye even sell(H4376) your brethren? or shall they be sold(H4376) unto us? Then held they their peace, and constitute nothing to answer." In Isaiah eleven:xi (H7069) was translated every bit recover. And information technology shall come to pass in that twenty-four hour period, that the Lord shall set his hand over again the second time to recover(H7069) the remnant of his people, which shall be left, from Assyria, and from Arab republic of egypt, and from Pathros, and from Cush, and from Elam, and from Shinar, and from Hamath, and from the islands of the sea. IMO to say that Deuteronomy 28:68 is talking well-nigh the transatlantic slave trade is misleading to say the least. Deuteronomy 28:64 is more accurately explains how "Negroes" arrived in the western hemisphere.

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Zan, Thank you for your post.  And every bit nosotros teach, a TRUE educatee of the scriptures will exhaust all aspect of scripture and history to support any argument made.  Your agreement regarding Deuteronomy 28:68 is not correct and just a few scriptures will clearly prove why. You stated... "And theLORD shall bring thee into Egypt  again with ships, by the way whereof I spake unto thee, Thou shalt see it no more again: and there ye shall be sold unto your enemies for bondmen and bondwomen, and no man shall purchase you." "And the LORD shall bring thee into Arab republic of egypt again with ships," This does not say "some other Egypt " or "spiritual Egypt" like many Israelites claim . It says Egypt . In Hebrew it says Mitsrayim. This is talking about literal geographical Egypt/Mitsrayim. " You are correct regarding the origin and meaning of the Discussion "Arab republic of egypt" but your statement I underlined IS NOT right.  First of all the Israelites went into Egypt MANY times in history and well before 70AD as you stated.  Examine... 2Mac. ane:10 In the hundred lxxx and eighth year, the people that were at Jerusalem and in Judea, and the council, and Judas, sent greeting and wellness unto Aristobulus, king Ptolemeus' main, who was of the stock of the anointed priests, and to the Jews that were in Egypt : Jews migrated into areas Southward of Israel like Egypt and as far northward westward as Asia minor (Greece, Rome etc..) The Septuagint are the hebrew scriptures translated by the Jews into Greek for this purpose.  This was done in Alexandria Arab republic of egypt considering Arab republic of egypt became a Greek (hellenized) country when Alexander conquered it and assigned it to his general Ptolemy. The word Arab republic of egypt is a Greek word.  This is proven all throughout the new testament.  Christ was taken into Egypt by Joseph during the time of Herod. Matt. 2:13 ¶ And when they were departed, behold, the angel of the Lord appeareth to Joseph in a dream, saying, Arise, and take the young child and his mother, and abscond into Egypt , and exist thou there until I bring thee discussion: for Herod will seek the young child to destroy him. Matt. two:xiv When he arose, he took the immature child and his female parent by night, and departed into Egypt: The book of Acts chapter 2 conspicuously shows there were Jews present at the feast of Pentecost from all parts of northern Africa, Arab republic of egypt in particular. Acts ii:x Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Arab republic of egypt, and in the parts of Libya about Cyrene , and strangers of Rome, Jews and proselytes, There were other Jews even built-in in Egypt (Mitsrayim) Acts 18:24 ¶ And a certain Jew named Apollos, born at Alexandria , an eloquent man, and mighty in the scriptures, came to Ephesus. It is clear that the Israelites saw Arab republic of egypt again.  The aforementioned geographical Egypt that the Israelites were delivered from during the time of Moses.  Then your argument regarding lxx Advertizing is not all together accurate.   You stated Deuteronomy 28:68 is not referring to another or "spiritual" Egypt.  The scriptures once more prove your statement incorrect. Rev. 11:eight And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the groovy urban center , which spiritually is called Sodom and Arab republic of egypt, where too our Lord was crucified. Was Christ crucified in Egypt?  NO!  But rather at the outskirts of Jerusalem (John xix:17-20).  And so There is obviously a place that is spiritually chosen Egypt (Mitsrayim means to besiege or capture, bondage).  Where is this spiritual Egypt that the dead bodies of the Israelites would be found?  Information technology can't speak of Ancient Arab republic of egypt because it hasn't been great since information technology fell during the time of the exodus.  Rome was the Dandy Urban center that controlled Jerusalem and crucified Christ.  What GREAT Metropolis did john see in his vision considering Rome was already in ability.  He saw AMERICA (also called Babylon) which is an extension of Ancient Rome that has murdered the colored Jews all throughout its coasts since its inception.  America is the SPIRITUAL Egypt that Moses prophesied that Israel would go to by way of ships and sold into slavery.  The discussion Purchase used in Deuteronomy 28:68 means to REDEEM as the word "qanah" clearly shows. Redeem -relieve (someone)fromsin, error, or evil:  he was a sinner, redeemed bythegrace of God . The Israelites in America are living proof of the prophecy.  The corporeality of Jews you researched that were taken to piece of work in mines does not qualify to fulfill a major event of alter for the nation of Israel like the slavery to America. Read these two lessons for more understanding http://www.truenation.org/12Tribes.pdf http://world wide web.truenation.org/America.pdf Christ and the prophet Daniel prophesied of the atrocities of 70AD with Titus and Vespasian and much history records many black jews fleeing into areas of Africa fifty-fifty to the western part known as the Gold Coast.  My question to yous would be, are the blacks that were taken from western Africa like the people of Ashanti (Ashan  1Chr 6:59) and brought to America equally slaves on ships African (Hametic) descendants?  If so, where are all those Jews that fled into Africa in 70AD and how did the American Negroes go to America as slaves.  There is a articulate distinction betwixt the American Negro and the African race.  The african race will conspicuously tell you lot this.  Please answer. __________________ "Knowledge and wisdom shall exist the stability of thy times and strength of salvation; the fearfulness of the Lord is his treasure" Isaiah 33:six

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You misunderstood what I typed. I conspicuously said ' YHWH told the Israelites that were led out by Moses they would never see Egypt/Mitsrayim once again in Exodus 14:thirteen and Deuteronomy 17:sixteen .' To clarify this I am saying the Israelites that were chased by Pharaoh and his  Egyptian horsemen would never see Mitsrayim once again. The Israelites that witnessed dead Egyptian bodies on the shore would non return back to Egypt . YHWH even made those Israelites have the long route. Because if they faced war He knew they would change their minds and render to Egypt . Exodus 13:17-xviii - And information technology came to pass, when Pharaoh had let the people go, that God led them not through the style of the land of the Philistines, although that was near; for God said, Lest maybe the people repent when they see state of war, and they render to Arab republic of egypt: -But God led the people about, through the way of the wilderness of the Reddish bounding main : and the children of State of israel went upward harnessed out of the land of Egypt . I never said the nation of State of israel would never see Egypt/Mitsrayim again.I stated 'the Israelites that were led out past Moses they would never come across Egypt/Mitsrayim over again.' There is a difference. Although YHWH never intended for the nation of State of israel to return to Egypt/Mitsrayim. Simply the Israelites bankrupt the covenant. I already know of the times when the kingdom of Judah fled to Arab republic of egypt because  they were attacked by the Chaldeans, Babylonians. The Jews that ran from Babylonians to Egypt were not led out by Moses. The verses yous posted I take read before. I don't think you thoroughly read my unabridged post. In a higher place I said Negroes confirm the words of the prophets. The majority of Negroes are descendants of ancient Yisrael. I know many brothers experience the need to defend the Deut 28:68 dogma because of the emotional attachment. Not me. I don't want to keep repeating my self but I already stated that there are many scriptures that prove Negroes/Blacks/Coloreds confirm the words of the prophets. Significant the majority are Israel. "Thou shalt run across it no more again" had to be explained considering many Israelites say "it" is referring to the Israelite homeland. Moses conspicuously lets the reader know " Egypt ", "It", and "there" are the same place. That is Geographical Mitsrayim. "and there ye shall be" Like I said "in that location" is Arab republic of egypt/Mitsrayim. "Ye shall exist" is futurity tense meaning the descendants. Truenation, Moses did not write "And the LORD shall bring thee into another Arab republic of egypt" neither did Moses write "And the LORD shall bring thee into spiritual Egypt." It says "And the LORD shall bring thee into Egypt again." Any reader can meet Moses was talking nigh geographical Mitsrayim.

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Maybe I misunderstood your post or i'm trying to sympathize your bespeak, either way the fact remains of my previous point. 2Tim. 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God , and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: Hos. 12:10 I accept too spoken by the prophets, and I have multiplied visions, and used similitudes, by the ministry of the prophets. SIMILITUDE in the hebrew text: 1819 . hDm;∂d damah, daw-maw´; a archaic root; to compare; by implication, to resemble, liken , consider:—compare, devise, (be) like(-n), mean, recall, use similitudes. Moses, John and all of the prophets wrote the words that the spirit of YHWH allowable them to write and used analogies, metaphors and parables which are besides called similitudes.  The word for similitude used is "damah" which ways to resemble or compare.  This is the case regarding Egypt that Moses wrote about in Deuteronomy 28:68.  There will be an Egypt (Mitsrayim) that will be in Comparison to the EGYPT the Israelites were in captivity earlier.  The Israelites will be made to serve Hard chains merely like ancient Egypt.  Just as Moses did, the Israelites will awaken to their heritage while being slaves in this place "Like" to that of ancient Egypt.  Another similitude, Babylon fell from ability centuries before the Romans ruled.  However there are prophecies of Israelites residing in BABYLON at the 2nd coming of Christ (Revelation ch 17 and 18).  Is this the same geographical land that the Israelites were enslaved in during the reign of Nebuchadnezzar and Belshazzar of the Chaldeans (Babylon)?  Admittedly not. Call it dogma, emotions or whatever i may choose, only the scriptures obviously speak of a spiritual Egypt where the Israelites will exist in the future.  and Ironically they will get there by manner of ships.  Jacob WALKED into Egypt with his offspring, and Moses WALKED out with the following generations.  Deuteronomy 28:68 is very a very authentic similitude of a future captivity in America. __________________ "Knowledge and wisdom shall exist the stability of thy times and strength of salvation; the fright of the Lord is his treasure" Isaiah 33:half dozen

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Equally far as Deut 28:68 having a deeper significant You're Right, I'thou Wrong.  My stance was based on one level of estimation and I positioned myself to exist in the wrong. Truenation, I started this thread for the natural caption  of Deuteronomy 28:68.  The mode Deuteronomy 28:68 was interpreted to me won me over, for a long time it was my clincher or trump carte du jour. The brothers I learned from told me there was no history of Israelites beingness taken back to literal Egypt in slave ships. And I believed them without double checking the info and verifying the facts. Titus transported Jews on slave ships dorsum to Egypt . Yeah information technology was a driblet in a bucket compared to the Trans Atlantic Slave merchandise, only Israelite congregations don't mention this. I spoke with a relative concluding night and he spoke of the four levels of interpreting the scriptures. The P'shat, Remez, D'rash, Sud. He follows Judaism but he reminded me that every scripture must exist interpreted with all four levels of interpretation.  Later on reading the writings of Josephus I became stuck on the P'shat or evidently interpretation of Deut 28:68. "And the LORD shall bring thee into Egypt again with ships, by the way whereof I spake unto thee, M shalt come across information technology no more again: and in that location ye shall be sold(H4376) unto your enemies for bondmen and bondwomen, and no man shall buy(H7069) you." I believe this prophecy was first fulfilled in lxx C .E. and the final version was the Trans Atlantic slave trade. The verse has a physical and spiritual meaning. The writings of Josephus and commentary had me thinking this prophecy happened once and only once. I know that YHWH works in cyclical patterns.  'All commentators agree that Mitzrayim, the discussion, represents hardship, distress, oppression, a narrow place or straits etc.' - The Symbolism of the Discussion "Mitzrayim" (Egypt)  'Egypt, eastward'-gypt (Gk.)--Coptic country; from the Hebrew name Mizraim, which means shut in, restraint, misery, tribulation, distress.' - Metaphysical significant of Egypt (mbd)

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Zan, No worries and I agree with the fact that there are Israelites that don't mention the historical aspects of Israelites in Arab republic of egypt after 70AD.  Many of Those Israelites in Egypt and Cyrene (Libya) went a piddling further west in Africa and became known as Moors.  Some mention this but skip over other parts of history maybe ignorantly or unintentionally.  Nosotros accept seen some brothers and sisters lose faith over certain misunderstandings of the scriptures and then we are very adamant that we read "precept upon precept"(Isa 28:x), to become a better understanding.  We thank you for sharing your insight.  Stay Strong in the spirit!! __________________ "Knowledge and wisdom shall be the stability of thy times and strength of salvation; the fright of the Lord is his treasure" Isaiah 33:6

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At best, all this proves is that some Black Hebrews Israelites were included with the Africans/Hamites in the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade. Let's non forget, the children of Isreal were scattered across the iv corners of the world. But at the end of the day information technology's not most who is a Hebrew Israelite, who is a gentile, existence white, black, or whatsoever. God said that in the last days he would pour out his spirit on "all flesh" in Acts 2:17. It'south all virtually Jesus! Colossians 3:eleven-12 KJV [11] Where in that location is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbaric, Scythian, bond nor gratuitous: but Christ is all, and in all. [12] Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering; … Galatians three:26-29 KJV [26] For ye are all the children of God by organized religion in Christ Jesus. [27] For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ take put on Christ. [28] There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. [29] And if ye be Christ'south, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise. … Romans x:10-13 KJV [10] For with the heart homo believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is fabricated unto conservancy. [xi] For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall non exist aback. [12] For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the aforementioned Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. [xiii] For whosoever shall call upon the proper name of the Lord shall be saved. … Acts 15:vii-9 KJV [7] And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose upwardly, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among u.s., that the Gentiles past my mouth should hear the discussion of the gospel, and believe. [8] And God, which knoweth the hearts, blank them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, fifty-fifty as he did unto us; [9] And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith. … Acts 10:34-35 KJV [34] Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons: [35] But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him. Ephesians three:5-6 KJV [five] Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, every bit it is at present revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets past the Spirit; [six] That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his hope in Christ by the gospel I say then, Take they stumbled that they should autumn? God forestall: merely rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy. Romans 2:28-29 KJV [28] For he is non a Jew, which is 1 outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: [29] But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and non in the letter; whose praise is non of men, merely of God. … And if you all the same think we are under the police, please read: Galatians Chapters 3-5 Romans 10:four Hebrews 8 Matthew 26:28, Mark 14:24 2 Corinthians 3:half dozen Romans 7:6 I would honey to dialogue with any of you further about this. Y'all tin can email me direct at salchim@yahoo.com.

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